tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4861198333046479177.post2301168639166632406..comments2023-04-15T01:34:35.989-07:00Comments on BGBC Survivors: Lawsuit Update: New Information!!Julie Annehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03125322661578802590noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4861198333046479177.post-86510230149986819902012-07-13T11:47:18.962-07:002012-07-13T11:47:18.962-07:00My sister was attending this Church, between 6-7 y...My sister was attending this Church, between 6-7 yrs ago! She had a 12 yr relationship, which ended badly. She was inconsolable. I had suggested she seek out "GOD"! She was trying different church's and found " Beaverton Grace Bible Church ". <br />She felt she could have fellowship with others and hear the "Word Of God". At that time, "Pastor Chuck" had not been with that church very long and it was a small congregation. She invited me to attend a service with her, so I did. Half way through the service, I was so irritated and getting so angry..I apologized to my sister and got up and left!<br />I waited in the car til people started coming out and I went back inside. I confronted the Pastor about what he was saying during the service..He had talked about Santa Clause, Christmas and how he didn't want to hear anyone talk about"The man in the red suit!" About giving and receiving gift's on that day. It seemed to me,that he was directing his comments to the children,Especially! <br />It felt to me, that he spent more time, trying to brainwash his congregation..than reading from the Bible!!! I told the Pastor, I would not be coming back to his Church, nor would I EVER refer anyone! The Only other Church I felt that way about, was the Pentecostal's. I have attended a lot of different church's in my life, and tried different Religions... I have decided that To love GOD, I don't have to go to a building, a Bible Study or a Bible Camp.. God, Is in my heart!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4861198333046479177.post-84411003824009204662012-05-17T09:58:50.744-07:002012-05-17T09:58:50.744-07:00In general I agree with this statement (the part a...In general I agree with this statement (the part about saying "in my opinion") except that a review is by its very nature an opinion. One states an opinion about something, then gives reasons or examples to support that opinion. <br /><br />For example, when I read restaurant reviews, one person says, "I won't go back -- the service was terrible and the food was cold." Another says, "This is our family favorite -- we always go there for the pizza when we're in town. It's a kid-friendly place." Different people have different experiences and different perspectives, and they can like or not like a place, business, church, etc., for completely different reasons. I may dislike a movie for the same characteristics that make it a favorite with another viewer.<br /><br />Freedom of speech includes the freedom to be wrong -- hence the Supreme Court's ruling about the Westboro Church's defamations.<br /><br />Maybe one's opinion of a church depends on whether one is being shunned or doing the shunning!Martha Murphyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02539396507098000692noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4861198333046479177.post-21760168005344580792012-05-17T08:54:31.710-07:002012-05-17T08:54:31.710-07:00I cannot stand what this church is doing. I heard ...I cannot stand what this church is doing. I heard your story on the news and my heart reached out to the 5 of you. People like Chuck O'Neal make life so much difficult for all of us. They abuse us to keep us under their control, then they try and take our liberties in a pursuit to control our very souls. So many people who have yet to come to Christ might choose not too because of men like Chuck O'Neal. He should be sued for defaming us! Just remember that God is with you and he has a plan for you and your admirable cause. <br /><br />The Lord is my Shepherd; I shall not want.<br />He maketh me to lie down in green pastures:<br />He leadeth me beside the still waters.<br />He restoreth my soul:<br />He leadeth me in the paths of righteousness for His name' sake.<br />Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death,<br />I will fear no evil: For thou art with me;<br />Thy rod and thy staff, they comfort me.<br />Thou preparest a table before me in the presence of mine enemies;<br />Thou annointest my head with oil; My cup runneth over.<br />Surely goodness and mercy shall follow me all the days of my life,<br />and I will dwell in the House of the Lord forever.vark47https://www.blogger.com/profile/15790355135123265236noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4861198333046479177.post-43518423541176986082012-05-15T22:57:18.668-07:002012-05-15T22:57:18.668-07:00Just got to ask, is it $500,000 from each defendan...Just got to ask, is it $500,000 from each defendant or in total?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4861198333046479177.post-34262482342603546792012-05-15T22:09:06.148-07:002012-05-15T22:09:06.148-07:00How can anonymous claim that this church isn't...How can anonymous claim that this church isn't famous for shunning when it shunned you?<br /><br />And I notice that he, and these jackasses are always he's, did not refer to a single statute or case law.<br /><br />Obviously if we allowed jerks like him to make our laws, we would have no free speech.<br /><br />Many Christian churches preach that The Mormons are a "cult". Does that mean they have to prove the Mormons are a cult?<br /><br />And the way this bully has gone after you proves he is running a cult and is afraid that people will get wise to him.Tomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03872631184847377718noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4861198333046479177.post-55776093000278488222012-05-15T04:51:04.986-07:002012-05-15T04:51:04.986-07:00Sorry you are wrong. Free speech limits you to you...Sorry you are wrong. Free speech limits you to your opinion and not the claim of fact. If you claim facts then you get to prove them in court. Therein, if you claim as you did that the church "is FAMOUS for shunning" and other such claims, it is presented as fact.<br /><br />NOW you get to PROVE your statement that they are FAMOUS for shunning. And anything else you said. I stopped reading at that line on your site because I knew you were immediately going to be guilty with that one. <br /><br />You should have said "I was shunned and in my opinion it was because....".<br /><br />You seem to think this will be "fun". NO, it won't be fun and you will lose. You will have the option to take it down or DEFEND IT. And your opinion and scripture is NOT a legal defense to defamation.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4861198333046479177.post-82437262337061158922012-05-14T15:46:25.780-07:002012-05-14T15:46:25.780-07:00I discovered your blog yesterday, and added it to ...I discovered your blog yesterday, and added it to my blog roll. I discovered Chuck O'Neal at Sermon Audio a couple of years ago and mentioned this series in my post at http://suspiciousberean.blogspot.ca/2010/05/american-christians-is-your-pastor.html.Jack Morrowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15327107636819451554noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4861198333046479177.post-71870267666785577062012-05-12T15:03:24.046-07:002012-05-12T15:03:24.046-07:00Please let us know which sites have your reviews. ...Please let us know which sites have your reviews. I would like to start a push for anyone with a spare 5 minutes to post a 'review' of that church. He can't sue everybody. Strength in numbers. I think a large protest should be organized.GeekGurl2000https://www.blogger.com/profile/11868009640881502400noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4861198333046479177.post-60759645613364829342012-05-04T16:47:00.611-07:002012-05-04T16:47:00.611-07:00I went back to that review to reread it: "Att...I went back to that review to reread it: "Attended worship services on April 29 and found the message to be just what I needed as I face hardship and persecution for the faith."<br /><br />That is an interesting review. I think those of us who have left could leave the same review.<br /><br />We faced hardship and persecution for the faith! And we're being sued! And shunned!Julie Annehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03125322661578802590noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4861198333046479177.post-50029193406584600152012-05-04T10:19:09.045-07:002012-05-04T10:19:09.045-07:00comments from May 3, 2012 7:13~thank you so much, ...comments from May 3, 2012 7:13~thank you so much, very clear and beautiful. AMENMeaghannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4861198333046479177.post-29632149855786880462012-05-04T09:52:38.066-07:002012-05-04T09:52:38.066-07:00bren says on Dexknows~'as I face hardship and ...bren says on Dexknows~'as I face hardship and persecution for the faith'<br />very sad comment considering the persecution is happening because he doesn't follow what scripture says about lawsuits nor 'shunning'. Truly sad to see how much control and twisting goes on there....grateful to be free & praying for eyes to be openAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4861198333046479177.post-47726282282442718042012-05-03T19:22:04.349-07:002012-05-03T19:22:04.349-07:00Those are great contrasts and when you see it side...Those are great contrasts and when you see it side by side like that, it is so clear. Thank you for sharing.Julie Annehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03125322661578802590noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4861198333046479177.post-35024515682110283152012-05-03T19:13:27.483-07:002012-05-03T19:13:27.483-07:00Freedom in Christ...............Legalism
*Spirit ...Freedom in Christ...............Legalism<br /><br />*Spirit led.................*Law bound<br />*Grace......................*Works righteousness<br />*Love/forgiveness...........*Hate/shunning<br />*Open communication.........*Control/silence<br />*Accept a wrong.............*Lawsuit<br /><br />Galations<br /><br />"The message of Galations is the message of the Christian's spiritual freedom, his deliverance by Christ from the bondage of sin and religious legalism." MacArthur Galatians commentary,pg.ix-x<br /><br />Galatians 5:1 Stand fast therefore in the liberty by which Christ has made us free, and do not be entangled again with a yoke of bondage.<br /><br />Galatians 4:16 Have I therefore become your enemy because I tell you the truth?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com