tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4861198333046479177.post6839823258150895..comments2023-04-15T01:34:35.989-07:00Comments on BGBC Survivors: Impostor "True" BGBC Survivors Blog Site Created by Suing Pastor Chuck O'NealJulie Annehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03125322661578802590noreply@blogger.comBlogger195125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4861198333046479177.post-84354897062005638172012-12-30T19:07:24.997-08:002012-12-30T19:07:24.997-08:00Melissa: When you get a chance, can you please se...Melissa: When you get a chance, can you please send me a copy of of the above: bgbcsurvivors@gmail.com<br /><br />Thank you!<br /><br />JAJulie Annehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03125322661578802590noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4861198333046479177.post-85162309364447271892012-12-30T18:13:24.305-08:002012-12-30T18:13:24.305-08:00Yes, that's me. I also posted to his website,...Yes, that's me. I also posted to his website, but of course that's moderated. I hate bullies, and he's the worst of the worst. I originally emailed him after the story hit the Huffington Post. Here's our interchange:<br /><br /><br /> <br /> -----Original Message-----<br /> From: "Melissa" <br /> Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2012 4:30pm<br /> To: "chuckoneal@cleaninter.net" <br /> Subject:<br /><br /><br /> What an embarrassment you are chuck o'neil. I didn't know about you until you decided to file a lawsuit. I guess that debunks your lawsuit. You have effectively destroyed your reputation with me (and many other complete strangers) by your public filing of action against a member of your church. Perhaps, you should have just ignored the criticism, then people like me would have never known about you! And FTR, pastors who sue church members generally have something to hide. Of course that's complete opinion and should never be construed as chuck truth.<br /> Have a great mothers day from a very cool mommy,<br /><br /> Melissa Fletcher, RN,BSN,MSN and a real doctoral candidate (as opposed to the faux version you right wingers prefer)<br /><br /><br /> Sent from my iPhone<br /><br />_________________________<br /><br /><br />On May 15, 2012, at 9:59 PM, chuckoneal@cleaninter.net wrote:<br /><br /> Things are not always what they first seem to be. Here is the rest of the story.<br /> <br /> BEAVERTON GRACE BIBLE CHURCH <br /> PRESS RELEASE<br /> <br /> There is another side to the story. Beaverton Grace Bible Church wants to present its side of the story <br /><br />****************deleted most of this email because I stopped reading about 4 lines in when my mind started substituting words with "blah blah blah"***********<br /><br />We thank you for your prayers.<br />______________________________ <br /> <br />-----Original Message-----<br />From: "Melissa" <br />Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2012 1:06am<br />To: "chuckoneal@cleaninter.net" <br />Subject: Re: RE:<br /><br />Your Hardly blameless, and your loose use of scripture to prove your position speaks volumes. Sorry "pastor" O'neill, you have no excuse. <br /><br />Sent from my iPhone<br /><br />_melissanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4861198333046479177.post-36638219920025567592012-12-30T16:55:59.289-08:002012-12-30T16:55:59.289-08:00Melissa - BTW, Are you the same Melissa who commen...Melissa - BTW, Are you the same Melissa who commented on TWW? It really is puzzling how he thinks this is going to help his cause. It is the most blatant way to scare people away from church entirely. His blog, the business cards, etc - - they are pushing people AWAY from Christ. He prides himself on knowing the best ways of evangelizing, but this is anti-evangelizing. Who wants to go to their parked car and see the blatherings of a disgruntled pastor? It's bizarre behavior.Julie Annehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03125322661578802590noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4861198333046479177.post-40382747818068519522012-12-30T15:55:34.711-08:002012-12-30T15:55:34.711-08:00The beautiful thing about Chuck's new blog is ...The beautiful thing about Chuck's new blog is him and all the people who respond incriminate themselves. After reading about how "shunning" is a part of church discipline WHO WOULD EVER WANT TO JOIN THEM? Basically, Chuck guaranteed permanent stunting of his church's growth. I don't go to church, but if I ever started again, I certainly wouldn't go to one where a pastor has dedicated an entire website to defending himself. What a tool.Melissanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4861198333046479177.post-40612825047069885332012-12-29T22:42:38.495-08:002012-12-29T22:42:38.495-08:00I know many agree with your words, sleepy sheep. ...I know many agree with your words, sleepy sheep. Thanks for your comment. Julie Annehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03125322661578802590noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4861198333046479177.post-55301334443769678712012-12-29T17:22:41.971-08:002012-12-29T17:22:41.971-08:00I looked at his site and read the newly added deta...I looked at his site and read the newly added detail about the DHS report. I did not see what Chuck says is there. I see how he can turn it to make these things look like he is unjustly persecuted. I was present and observed some of the incidents surrounding these reports and I was concerned. The timing of the report does not bother me, nor do the "love" notes from Meaghan. What this comes down to, for me, is that when I weigh my experiences at BGBC with all concerned, I find Meaghan and Julie Anne to be the more trustworthy over pastor and co. Having been the subject of fact twisting,gossip and supposition there, I have to agree that he creates his own chaos.sleepy sheepnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4861198333046479177.post-31224215903667747262012-12-27T23:52:11.606-08:002012-12-27T23:52:11.606-08:00There does seem to be some confusion. I'll e...There does seem to be some confusion. I'll exercise great restraint and leave it at that. :)<br />Julie Annehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03125322661578802590noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4861198333046479177.post-25390475533875154302012-12-27T22:28:03.391-08:002012-12-27T22:28:03.391-08:00Wow, what an honor. I was once in the Navy for qu...Wow, what an honor. I was once in the Navy for quite a few years, and no one saluted me. Yes, I have been on hiatus for a bit. I have had some family issues that I have been dealing with, as well as working a lot, and it hasn't afforded the time to blog lately. I was just thinking about your blog earlier, and when I logged in, I was surprised to see that Chuck was back at his old tricks again. He is still accusing you of a CRIMINAL act. But yet, he took you to civil court. I know the difference between those two words. Someone needs to teach Chuck the difference. Criminal (JAIL) vs. CIVIL (Money). chapmaned24https://www.blogger.com/profile/04000004953519445234noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4861198333046479177.post-79450092305664020772012-12-27T20:36:24.323-08:002012-12-27T20:36:24.323-08:00Ed: Congratulations - With your comment you made ...Ed: Congratulations - With your comment you made this the most commented post in history here. And what a comment! I am going to take my laptop off my lap, stand and salute you for the comment of the day! haha :) And I concur with 100% of it. <br /><br />I've missed your face around here lately! Good to "see" you again, Ed.Julie Annehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03125322661578802590noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4861198333046479177.post-30772163930528820232012-12-27T17:56:40.927-08:002012-12-27T17:56:40.927-08:00Hi Julie Anne,
Solid Bro from TWW referenced Prov...Hi Julie Anne,<br /><br />Solid Bro from TWW referenced Proverbs 18:17, which I think is FUNNY, since he disobeys God's Law (Leviticus 19:18) as a so called man of the cloth. <br /><br />Proverbs 18:17, huh? “In a lawsuit the first to speak seems right,<br />until someone comes forward and cross-examines.”<br /><br />Since Chuck brought the lawsuit, he was the first to speak.<br /><br />The judge wasn’t gonna have any of it. The judge already told Chuckles that he has no standing, no merit. In other words, Chuckles, SIT DOWN AND SHUT UP.<br /><br />Besides, who really cares who called CPS on Chuckles? BETTER SAFE THAN SORRY!! If I was falsely accused of something that I did not do, WHO CARES? Dust your feet and move on. Why all this nonsense of the fake and phoney tears from the Chuckles family, with all of their “woe is us” sympathy seekers?<br /><br />Leviticus 19:18<br />“‘Do not seek revenge or bear a grudge against anyone among your people, but love your neighbor as yourself. I am the LORD.”<br /><br />THAT IS GOD’S LAW, CHUCKLES!!!! YOU ARE DISOBEYING GOD’S LAW, AS A MAN OF THE CLOTH, YOU ARE A DISGRACE TO THE WORDS GRACE AND MERCY.<br /><br />Ed Chapman<br />chapmaned24https://www.blogger.com/profile/04000004953519445234noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4861198333046479177.post-35353446745761046852012-12-24T09:43:37.646-08:002012-12-24T09:43:37.646-08:00Amen, Don!
Please send along Merry Christmas gree...Amen, Don!<br /><br />Please send along Merry Christmas greetings to your fam from the Smith clan. Love you guys!Julie Annehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03125322661578802590noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4861198333046479177.post-83126822331483621382012-12-24T08:42:57.501-08:002012-12-24T08:42:57.501-08:00Anonymous, not stupid, just blinded. We all were ...Anonymous, not stupid, just blinded. We all were when we were at that institution. But I am now convinced that God will lift that blindness in due time. As I see more and more families freed from there, I have hope for you too! Donhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14386474615368625606noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4861198333046479177.post-34189837884837485742012-12-23T23:39:42.394-08:002012-12-23T23:39:42.394-08:00BlueBird, my calling you BlueBeard was intentional...BlueBird, my calling you BlueBeard was intentional on a number of levels.<br /><br />I'm curious, did you maybe slightly get “worked up” and “ruffled” over my getting your name wrong? =]<br /><br />Fwiw, there is a blue bird in the Peter and the Wolf story. The blue bird is an ally of Peter and helps him catch the wolf. <br /><br />Bluebeard, on the other hand, is a monstrous character from french folklore. <br /><br />I called you Mr Weaver, cause that’s who you sound like. In fact, you all sound like a bunch of Chucks—mean, legalistic and graceless. <br /><br />You write: <i>Calling Julie Anne a “shepherdess” is so unbiblical I am squirming for you. I would hate to explain that on judgment day. God makes it perfectly clear in the Bible the way His church is to be run, and having a woman in a place of authority is not it. “And I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man, but to be in silence.” (1 Timothy 2:12)</i><br /><br />What I appreciate in your comment here is your passionate embracing of Scripture as our final authority for faith and practice. I also agree that God has made it perfectly clear that women are not permitted to teach or to have authority over men. Yes, dear, I believe Scripture is quite clear on this. <br /><br />But where does it say that a woman is not to be a teacher or a pastor? In the church there are many highly gifted women who God has called to pastor and to teach. They serve in the body in positions that no men can fill. A woman who is a pastor or teacher to other women or children is not disobeying any Scriptural directives.<br /><br />Please know, BlueBird, even you, as you are in Christ—you are a woman called to great spiritual authority. What grants us this authority? For one, we’re seated with Christ at the right hand of our heavenly Father. Obedience grants authority. Love grants authority. Knowing whose you are and how to wield the Sword of Truth grants great authority. With the authority you have in Christ you can crush serpents and scorpions. <br /><br />It's true. <br /><br />Bless you, BlueBird, Bless you!monaxhttp://www.spiritualauthority.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4861198333046479177.post-63533068123443441102012-12-23T16:15:15.827-08:002012-12-23T16:15:15.827-08:00BlueBird, I have some words of encouragement for y...BlueBird, I have some words of encouragement for you.... <br /><br /><br />Thanks for taking time to read them!Raymondnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4861198333046479177.post-7476142496202663322012-12-23T15:37:32.160-08:002012-12-23T15:37:32.160-08:00Raymond… miss me? Seriously though, I could proba...Raymond… miss me? Seriously though, I could probably come up with little quips about your name, or perhaps I could ponder where the name “monax” came from and how odd it sounds… or maybe I’ll just be an adult about it and focus on the things that matter. Like this whole thing was never about one negative review left on google, was it? Looks more like the biggest grudge I've ever witnessed, blogged about day and night by a prideful hypocrite and liar (borrowing Peter Paul’s words there because he made an excellent case) with nothing better to do than to scoff at other’s people’s pain. <br /><br />I also see that you and Julie have been busy counting comments, hits and commenters. How adorable. I didn't realize this was a high school popularity contest. But really, you guys make it too easy…. I mentioned before that Julie and crew were proud, unloving, slanderers, haughty, lovers of pleasure (or in this case - lover of her 15 minutes of fame)… So thank you for proving my point! Your focus on numbers and popularity rather than the facts, illustrates exactly what I was talking about. <br />Question for you… if a person is wrong, but has 99 different people siding with her, does it somehow make her right? No, because truth is truth. And fable, no matter how compelling -- and even if there are a bunch of people buying it and re-shoveling it –- is still just a made-up tall tale. Sorry guys.<br /><br />One final thought... if someone was running to different churches spreading lies about me, blogging non-stop nastiness about me, calling DHS and lying about me.... I would absolutely start my own blog to set the record straight about myself and my family. And no one in their right mind would call that a waste of time. <br />BlueBirdnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4861198333046479177.post-48886112849716437532012-12-23T15:34:17.715-08:002012-12-23T15:34:17.715-08:00Bluebird: Did you, as a woman, just publicly rebu...Bluebird: Did you, as a woman, just publicly rebuke monax, a man? Were you trying to teach him 1 Tim 2:12? Whoa.<br /><br />Maybe we should be "squirming for you"?<br /><br />signed,<br />JA, aka as "shepherdess" to monaxJulie Annehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03125322661578802590noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4861198333046479177.post-13564126950242040572012-12-23T14:59:27.854-08:002012-12-23T14:59:27.854-08:00Monax, my bad. I did indeed mean “The Boy who Cri...Monax, my bad. I did indeed mean “The Boy who Cried Wolf”, but see… you still knew what I meant even though I had the title wrong.<br /><br />Lol, sorry but the joke is on you. I am BlueBIRD, not BlueBEARD, and therefore not Mr. Weaver, who I believe is the Elder of BGBC… but thank you for the compliment! I will tell you I am a wife and mother, but alas, cannot give you any more information because of the whole ‘protecting my family from you people’ thing. <br /><br />Kudos to you monax for knowing your fables. Well done. And you taking the time to compose a “story” explains a lot about your friendship with Julie Anne as she enjoys concocting fables too, as I have mentioned before. Unfortunately though, it doesn’t appear you know your Bible as well. Calling Julie Anne a “shepherdess” is so unbiblical I am squirming for you. I would hate to explain that on judgment day. God makes it perfectly clear in the Bible the way His church is to be run, and having a woman in a place of authority is not it. “And I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man, but to be in silence.” (1 Timothy 2:12) Does this make me or any other woman “less than”? Absolutely not! I, in no way, feel inferior to hear and obey God’s holy design. I know that my role as wife, mother, keeper of the home is most important. And I am blessed to embrace it along with all the other tasks God brings about for me to take on… all the while knowing that there are some roles I am not designed for. Phew! I don’t have to do it all! God has appointed and qualified the men He has called, Elders and Deacons, to watch over flocks. And, in my life, given me a husband to lead my home. <br /><br />You’re right, there is truth out about the Julie Anne vs. BGBC situation on the internet… however, there’s not much truth of it here on this blog. <br />BlueBirdnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4861198333046479177.post-51725112991834146132012-12-22T23:23:23.675-08:002012-12-22T23:23:23.675-08:00anybody ever see the 1962 movie The Manchurian Can...anybody ever see the 1962 movie <i>The Manchurian Candidate</i>?<br /><br />Queen of Hearts is quoting a famous line from it<br />monaxhttp://www.spiritualauthority.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4861198333046479177.post-62188823561615222822012-12-22T23:01:21.942-08:002012-12-22T23:01:21.942-08:00More blog stats for Raymond: This post is in 7th ...More blog stats for Raymond: This post is in 7th place for # of hits. It's 2nd place for # of comments. I think if the Impostor Site would allow negative comments, they'd get more traffic :) Look how many comments Bluebird and Peter Paul, Anonymous, etc, generated. Julie Annehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03125322661578802590noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4861198333046479177.post-17375594173736049522012-12-22T22:35:34.127-08:002012-12-22T22:35:34.127-08:00Queen of Hearts - And deprive us of all of his gre...Queen of Hearts - And deprive us of all of his great insight? Nah - keep counting, Raymond. Julie Annehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03125322661578802590noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4861198333046479177.post-16276794472731074822012-12-22T22:26:59.846-08:002012-12-22T22:26:59.846-08:00Raymond. Why don't you pass the time by playin...Raymond. Why don't you pass the time by playing a little solitaire? Queen of Heartsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4861198333046479177.post-38438307561494901312012-12-22T22:25:51.987-08:002012-12-22T22:25:51.987-08:00Raymond,
Your comments were insightful and delig...Raymond, <br /><br />Your comments were insightful and delightful!! You are one who knows and understands! Thanks for taking the time to be the bean counter and draw comparisons. Thanks for the bird identification study--that is 'for the birds'! Well done. Smiling from here. :)Barb Orlowskihttp://www.churchexiters.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4861198333046479177.post-19029750629668035002012-12-22T22:11:18.705-08:002012-12-22T22:11:18.705-08:00Raymond:
#1: Did you really go to TWW and Impo...Raymond: <br /><br />#1: Did you really go to TWW and Impostor Blog and my blog and count comments/posts? This cracks me up.<br /><br />#2: I'm wondering what Kool-Aid you've been drinking because I don't ever recall having a conversation with you about bluebirds. I don't know a thing about bluebirds. Your story was quite humorous, though. Thanks for the education and laugh.<br /><br />#3: I do hate bird poop.<br /><br />#4: You made excellent points even if you went to crazy feats in doing your fact gathering. Julie Annehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03125322661578802590noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4861198333046479177.post-59977154142808731782012-12-22T21:22:33.938-08:002012-12-22T21:22:33.938-08:00Bluebird, reading your comments really don't m...Bluebird, reading your comments really don't make sense. You bash Julie Anne's blog in your first post.<br /><br />"I followed this blog for awhile, and to be honest it became tiresome. Same thing different day. Much whining, gossip, and speculation against churches, pastors, etc. Julie Anne reminds me of “Peter and the Wolf”. She stands on a mountain side bored and wanting attention, so she cries, “Wolf! Wolf!” so people will take notice and come running. Sadly for you Julie Anne… we know how the tale ends."<br /><br />Then you come back and act like you're some kind of neutral observer trying to just get both sides of the story. By the way Peter, was not the the character that yelled "wolf wolf", I think in that fable the character's name was Chuck, but I am not sure. <br /><br />"I wouldn't call my comment a “negative review” but rather a differing view than yours. One that enjoys engaging in thinking for myself, looking at both sides of the story and making an educated decision based on facts. Not on speculation, ponderings and the ever vacillating emotions of people." <br /><br />Why do you people continue to waste your time and energy and money trying to defend something that really nobody cares about but your Pastor? Since Chuck's blog has been posted, there have been a total of 81 comments posted by a total of 20 people, 5 which have a last name of O'Neal, and from reading most all the comments, I think I am safe to say all but maybe one attends BGBC. I don't know what the total number in the congregation is, but only having 15 comments on such a life and death situation for the church would really concern me. I am sure there were plenty of other comments that didn't get posted - if I had to guess that number would be more than the 81. Julie Anne's blog and the TWW had a total of 482 comments from 99 different people. And Chuck and his family was allowed to make 11 comments. And Julie Anne and the TWW are not representing a church. (In fact I live 2,500 miles away). And I don't recall seeing Julie Anne or Meaghan's comments posted on Chuck's blog even once. Now come on bluebird, you don't have to be very smart to see that Chuck is wasting his time and his church's resources and Internet space to prove what?<br /><br />And if you are baiting waiting for a response from Julie Anne, I heard she don't like Bluebirds, because they are very territorial and sit on your car mirror and try to beat up an image of itself. They are not smart enough to know neither of the birds are going to win the fight. She also said she don't like bluebirds because they crap on her window trying to beat the crap out of their own reflection. She wouldn't care if the bluebird never comes back, it makes too much of a mess.<br /><br />Raymond<br />Raymondnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4861198333046479177.post-62182300771106428882012-12-22T15:03:13.893-08:002012-12-22T15:03:13.893-08:00O this is funny!
Hey BlueBeard, or should i say ...O this is funny! <br /><br />Hey BlueBeard, or should i say Mr Weaver!<br /><br />Your foible is a confusion of fables. <br /><br />Do you <i>really</i> know the end of the ”Peter and the Wolf” story? <br /><br />Is Peter likened here to Julie Anne who traps a wolf with a bird in its belly and then convinces the hunters to put it on display? <br /><br />I know, I know you meant to cite <i>The Boy Who Cried “Wolf”</i>, right?<br /><br />But let me tell you the Julie Anne wolf-story.<br /><br />here goes:<br /><br /> <b><i>The shepherdess who cried ‘wolf!’</i></b> <br /><br />Once there was a Oregonian Shepherdess who cried ‘wolf!’ <br /><br />All the hillside shepherds came and examined the situation and proclaimed ‘not so.’<br /><br />Shortly thereafter the shepherdess once again and even louder cried ‘wolf!’ and her cry was heard as far as California. The shepherds on hearing her cry (shepherds who were either wolves themselves or mind controlled sheep playing their roles) determined once again that no wolves were threatening the flock or the shepherdess. <br /><br />When the wolves came against her again to snuff the Shepherdess out her cry was heard around the globe and rams and true shepherds came running to defend the Shepherdess and the flock from the ravenous schemes of the wolves. <br /><br />The global attention contained these wolves in a zoo, encased them under the glass of the world wide web for all to see the truth.<br /><br /> <br /><br />monaxhttp://www.spiritualauthority.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.com